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aside: men who are neurotic about being convinced “by emotions”

collaterlysisters:

hey bros, group hug.  I’m gonna lay something on you, it’s going to make life a lot simpler.  Check this out: there is no such divide between reason and emotion.  When people talk about reason in this way they are actually using shorthand for a certain way of negotiating and conveying emotion.  What you argue for and how you do it are inevitably a product of your emotions.  There are emotional values that can be said to be generally reproducible and common - having food as a good thing, for example - but they are no less emotional than more specific kinds of sentiment.

There is a huge ass conversation to have about emotional tenor, about when the kinds of relations we (someone chauvinistically) call “reason” are and aren’t useful to various ends, but there is really nothing to say about “removing” emotion from a conflict or thinking reasonably “instead of” emotionally, because these are things that cannot actually be done *peels out*